Second Chances
I am all for second chances or more. I want as many chances as I need and so do most people, as long as no real harm is done. In a chat room, what real harm can come to us? Some people with the worst chat skills may only need a lot of help. Think about that. It may help to consider that you and others are in a real room and bring all your manners, common sense and good will with you and also bring your kind and fun spirit. The chat room does have real people in it and you can make yourself unwanted, regardless of having paid a membership fee. It behooves all who enter a chat room to behave accordingly and if we are all mature, we should be able to manage our business there without calling in enforcements. Am I too naïve, let me know.
A later thought. This blog is about the main chat room, and like a house party, if you stay in the front room, things will be proper but if you go into private rooms , the rules change and you need to expect something riskier. and you are pretty much on your own.
if an admin has biases from another site ( even tho no rules broken on other site) and IMMEDIATELY confronts a “newbie” with scolding lecturing and hostility what then eh?
Brain. Maybe you should considered it a fair warning and behave here according to the rules. You know that you irritate people. Wouldn’t you rather just get along? Plenty of people here get lectured and booted, and some come back and some don’t. I hope you start thinking about what you could change to make you happier and would make others happier.
If an admin has biases from another site toward a new chatter ( even tho newbie never broke any rules in other site) and then IMMEDIATELY starts in threatening and lecturing what then eh?
Brian do you honestly think, that after ready all the replies on your own threrad, that you are totally innocent of any wrong doing? All those people are wrong and you are right? The Monitor you speak of gave you warnings, and rightly so…..it appears to me maybe too many warnings…yet you continued with your instulting and disturbing ways.
Rose, when someone continues to insult and belittle a nation and its people (amongst other things) and takes no notice to discontinue such unwarranted behaviour, the Monitors/Admins only option is to ban them from the chatroom. Unlike many other sites we do not accept this kind of behavior which makes it the kind of place people want to return to. I certainly wouldnt want to stay if I had to “listen” to even one person mouthing off in such a way. Yes, members could avoid the chatroom at a time when this man was there, but many pop in just in a spare moment for a quick chat and to catch up with friends.
Faye, I don’t know what was said against a nation and its people, and I know that there is a rule against politically provocative language, but in USA we have a right to freedom of speech and maybe we don’t on this site. It is not my place to judge, but if someone talks about my country, I will agree or defend it. I do believe in chances and I know that Brian can be less abrasive’. I have heard people say horrible things about their countries and other people just allowed it. I teased about our independence day and no one seemed to be offended, but they could have been. I hardly know Brian, but a lot of patience and love may turn him around.No one was harmed. were they?
roseinbloom,you are one lovely lady.
I agree with Flower…you surely are one lovely lady. But there is a ruling here that if your chattig is likely to provoke or offend you face an immmediate ban. It is there for everyone to see. Yes, there is freedom of speech….I think many countrys in the world fought for that not just USA. but there is also a line that should never be crossed and I think those who fought for that would agree. Brian crossed that line in trying to purposely insult and offend others.
Faye, we are talking “intent” and do we know Brian’s intent? He may only intend to be clever and amusing. As I said, I teased about making the UKs sing Yankee Doodle, well they told me what Yankee meant and It certainly could have provoked. but I hope we all had fun and learned. I never saw any indication otherwise. I don’t run the site and am freer to be forgiving.
Thanks. You are awesome and special yourself. I am very grateful for your support.
The problem with Brian, bloom, is he does not want friends. He wants to disturb, that is his only goal and purpose in being here. Go take a look and see how many friends he has on his profile.
There have been several people who have told me they friended him…
Lexann. I think I met Brian in a chatroom once. I believe he wants to be admired and appreciated, but goes about it wrong. I think he can learn and we can help him. I haven’t heard that he is gross or extremely vulgar, or sexually harassing people. So I think he is redeemable and it doesn’t hurt us to try.
Amen,roseinbloom.
Well for what its worth, hi brian, lots of misunderstandings happen on an international site lol, I used to get my knickers in a knot over it now i just think its the way the mop flops. Now I go with the flow until someone is unjustly attacked, have been know to have hissie fits on these occasions lol, mostly site is great, no judgement on you, I do not know you mate. My advice is just respect everyone for who they are unless they prove to be a trouble maker, that includes you and me lol then the monitors and admin need to step in to keep SC a great site, all the best skips xxx
I love the “knickers in a knot”, and I use “bloomers in a bunch” and that says a lot. It takes two to tangle and if people don’t get provoked, then no provoking is done. If someone is provoked, they should speak up and the provoker should apologize as is usually done even if the provoker doesn’t have a clue why he has provoked. Next US Independence Day I hope I can tease about making UKs sing Yankee Doodle and they can call me a dumb English which is the meaning of Yankee.
lol rose, I have spoken up many times. oh well, ho hum
With Freedom of Speech come the consequences of what you chose to say. If I called another member a nasty name can I claim ‘the freedom of speech’ to avoid any penalty?
Catraoine. agree. There are consequences, but is there a law against it?
There are conditions of membership here, I can’t talk about Politics, or Religion or even Spiritual matters, so I either obey the rules or I will get banned. That is the consequence of my choice to use that Freedom of Speech. Try calling someone a N******* and you will find that is against the law, but nobody can stop anyone from saying it.
Catraoine. The problem is not that you can’t talk about Politics, Religion, or spiritual matters; we are called upon to make a judgement about what will provoke another.
Well Rob has stated that we can’t talk about those subjects, and he’s the boss! 🙂
oh dear, i just want to be a friend and non judgemental to all, I do try to handle people with care,however we do occasionaly find one, though it is a rarity, that can be abrasive for their own reasons , i daresay, perhaps they are having a bad day, unwell, or may have heard bad news and don,t know how to share it, or give of their nicer selves,tolerence and understanding in my case, and quick to forgive,I have lost my cool twice in the time I have been here, and immediately regretted my stance even though I was quite within my rights to do so at the time.however to be the hero and forgive is much better than sinking into a mire of misery for both parties.we all live and learn. but everyone does not think as I do and we have to make allowences for all the different types of personalities ,what deeply offends one and hurts another may go unoticed by many, so we all have to do our best too get along , most of our chatters are loving ,caring,human beings. however attacks on a person for reasons only known to that person are not warrented and completely uncalled for unless it is the truth and then should be discussed between the parties involved off chat in a pm or with Rob or admins as counsellors.and then make a judgement call.apologies all arround and then get on with it ,.we all know the rules when we join and if there were no rules in society and in general there would be chaos everywhere. do hope this makes sense.xxxx.